[request] Remove checks for DreamMovie VCD player?

SMiTH
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Re: [request] Remove checks for DreamMovie VCD player?

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Ian Micheal wrote:I can included my new compiled bin of 4xm player if wanted
I'm all for it.
It would be interesting to see how 4xm can be used on dc.
Yes, the 4xm video conversion will take forever, but the end result is worth it.
A full dvd video would probably be at least 6gb in size? and would take a day to convert?
Maybe we could figure out a way to process files quicker?

Maybe a script could be made to create a .mdf, .mds file. .nrg? or even create .gdi files ??(or keep .cdi) ??
This way gd-emu users could create selfboot images over 1gb in size with 4xm movie and 4xm player on same disk.
I forget what you said was the max .cdi filesize that can be used?
Either way we could figure something out so ppl could have dvd quality video on the dreamcast.

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MoeFoh
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Re: [request] Remove checks for DreamMovie VCD player?

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Could be useful in 3rd-world, opressed countries i.e. North Korea, where Western entertainment is hard to come by and has to be smuggled in. It's the first thing I thought of when I saw Ian's HW XVID player.
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Re: [request] Remove checks for DreamMovie VCD player?

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SMiTH wrote:
Ian Micheal wrote:I can included my new compiled bin of 4xm player if wanted
I'm all for it.
It would be interesting to see how 4xm can be used on dc.
Yes, the 4xm video conversion will take forever, but the end result is worth it.
A full dvd video would probably be at least 6gb in size? and would take a day to convert?
Maybe we could figure out a way to process files quicker?

Maybe a script could be made to create a .mdf, .mds file. .nrg? or even create .gdi files ??(or keep .cdi) ??
This way gd-emu users could create selfboot images over 1gb in size with 4xm movie and 4xm player on same disk.
I forget what you said was the max .cdi filesize that can be used?
Either way we could figure something out so ppl could have dvd quality video on the dreamcast.
@ShindouGo created up to 2gb compilations using the Alcohol MDS/MDF format because they worked with GDEMU.

https://www.dreamcast-talk.com/forum/vi ... 22&t=12486

https://www.dreamcast-talk.com/forum/vi ... 60#p131760
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Cass
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Re: [request] Remove checks for DreamMovie VCD player?

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Is the compression on 4xm good enough to fit a feature length film with DVD quality into 2gb image. Is it possible to get 648x480 and a decent frame rate at this size. If it is then wow and turns GDEMU into a media centre. Wonder how the film's would look with dchdmi or an mclassic. I suppose Christmas is coming up I could probably just about convince the wife - this could get expensive :p

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Ian Micheal
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Re: [request] Remove checks for DreamMovie VCD player?

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Cass wrote:Is the compression on 4xm good enough to fit a feature length film with DVD quality into 2gb image. Is it possible to get 648x480 and a decent frame rate at this size. If it is then wow and turns GDEMU into a media centre. Wonder how the film's would look with dchdmi or an mclassic. I suppose Christmas is coming up I could probably just about convince the wife - this could get expensive :p

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- available for PC, MacOs, Dreamcast and Playstation 2*
- the fastest decompression on the market
- incomparable visual quality
high definition from low-end computers upwards
- compatible with all your developments
API C/C++, Xtra Director, ActiveX
4X Movie allows full screen display of your animated sequences
(video, cinema, computer generated, etc) with DVD quality and
even on low-end computers.
Speed
An unequalled decompression speed from the low-end machines and on any
medium.
Visual quality
Incomparable video quality
- DVD quality on a Pentium 166 MHz or a Imac at 25 fps
- high definition at 800x600 and 30 fps on any Pentium II
- high definition at 1024x768 at 50 fps on a Pentium II 600 MHz
- optimal quality at 640x480 and 60 fps on Dreamcast
- animated texture at 256x256 and 25 fps (less than 10% of CPU time on
Dreamcast or Pentium II)
read above it can do 640x480 at 60fps so 24fps normal dvd is not a problem

Yes to DVD quality but it might be 6gb size or 3 sized 2gb images ..

Yes 48 hours not joking here dont matter how fast your pc is

Encoding each part would be more then 48 hours for each 2gb imagegetting the setting right you need to use a very small video first other wise it's 24 hours a test Or you need few computer's encoding at the same time..

Major thing finding the right settings so less then 1 min video problem what works on dcemulator does not mean it works on hardware let me tell you that.. I think my f9 trailer is the only encoded working other then what came with it.. I struggled today to remember settings that work and what program or files i used..

It will encode DVD VOB straight to 4xm

Yes not joking 48 hours or more to encoded 2gb movie

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Re: [request] Remove checks for DreamMovie VCD player?

Post by Cass »

Not for the faint hearted but I think there are probably a few in the community and I include myself willing to give this a shot. I've got an old Athlon PC and an ancient Mac - was there a Mac version of the software released.

Looking at those figures - 640x480 at 60 FPS twenty years ago it's kind of jaw dropping considering the DC packed the relatively modest although wonderfully designed SH4.

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Re: [request] Remove checks for DreamMovie VCD player?

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axmcompress4.png
Sm player plays 4xm files dreamcast encoded with sound and shows file info it's a start traced this from 2003 post about ffmpeg

https://www.smplayer.info/



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Re: [request] Remove checks for DreamMovie VCD player?

Post by Ian Micheal »

Ok we can use ffmpeg to decode 4xm files like matrix or others with

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ffmpeg -i Ducati.4xm  intro.mp4
this will help to see what the real stats are to help with encoding

Ok 4xm decoded to mp4
4xmmatrix decode.png
Dreamcast 4xm
4xmmatrix.png
4xm decoded to mp4

https://mega.nz/file/fuwhha4Y#Xc_ke1Hhi ... ttcDAAUvCk
4xmmatrixinfo.png
Bit rate is variable all thru the movie hits high and low watch it up to 1.5mb done to 50kb

anyone still have this http://www.dc-swat.ru/forum/printthread ... 144&page=1 ?

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Guessed Channel Layout for Input Stream #0.1 : stereo
Input #0, 4xm, from 'VIDEO.4XM':
  Duration: 00:08:10.64, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1411 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Video: 4xm, rgb565le, 640x368, 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc
    Stream #0:1: Audio: adpcm_4xm, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16p, 1411 kb/s
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (4xm (native) -> mpeg1video (native))
  Stream #0:1 -> #0:1 (adpcm_4xm (native) -> mp2 (native))
Last version i can find https://archive.org/download/4XMovieNET it seems quite a bit faster then the other that dont mean it's fast but it uses 25% cpu power not 0.2% of the one i posted now to see if it works on dreamcast

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