new kidspad update

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MrSega

Re: new kidspad update

Post#11 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:40 pm

Mephiles550 wrote:How well do you think "kidspad" will do at launch btw? I predict it to have a launch similar to the DS for some reason...



The KIDSPAD will be passed off as an iPad game machine. It will likely have apps simluar to DS and will be able to handle most current gen titles. Since it will contain a faster GPU processor than PS Vita it will also be able to compete graphically against PS3.

Sources have told me that Apple is DEFINETLY invovled in KIDSPAD's development and design. It turns out, Apple and IP Techologies have not and have no plans to allow American companies to sell iPad clones. Only oversea companies are allowed to but they still need premssion from Apple. SEGA would not be premitted to sell KIDS PAD without Apple's knowledge.

Thus Apple knows about KIDS PAD. they exclusively own the patent design and techology to iPad, No other company has any knowledge on how to design one unless they had contact with Apple.


To anyone that tries to dispute KIDS PAD as nothing more than a prototype trademark like a Gizomundo journalist atempted to several months ago, trust me its not. Prototype trademarks like SEGADRIVE are filed,suspended at least once and take over a year to be registered. They also don't have more than one record and have a basic description about a sentence or two. KIDS PAD has TWO recorded trademark documents. A standard one and one with an actual logo design. The standard one was filed in February, the more detailed one was filed on March 11. The standard mark's deadline for international usage is in 2 weeks. The more detailed mark international usage is September 11,2011.

The fact that the mark has a 2 paragraph long description, and the fact that there two records of the same mark indicates that SEGA will definetly use this trademark.

So why hasn't SEGA annouced the project yet? I suspect the March 11 Tsunami is the main culprit. The project's annoucement which was orginally set for May was pushed back several months.

MrSega

Re: new kidspad update

Post#12 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:59 pm

stu wrote:All it says in those trademarks is that Sega renewed their ownership of the Sega name and their branding logo, they've owned one of those trademarks for 22 years and the other for 10 years, they're hardly going to let them lapse now. Not really a huge surprise in my opinion. :|


You're opinion is incorrect. SEGA's branding for home consumer products and licensing was renewed in 2000. This means the actual renewal of the SEGA hardware branding to prevent lapsing would have been in 2008 not late 2009 and 2010.

The reason why the hardware home consumer product branding was registered and renewed a year and a half ago is because SEGA abandoned the branding in January 2002, the branding was both renewed and registered in late 2009 just 7 and a half years after it was abandoned which indicates that they will once again sell hardware products for commercial usage in homes in the next decade. If they would let them laspe this would have meant that they were never going to reenter the hardware business.

SEGA is indicating they defintely are interested in selling home consumer products again, funny how the KIDS PAD ended up getting filed just a mere 16 months later.

craziestrufis
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Re: new kidspad update

Post#13 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:44 pm

MrSega wrote:
stu wrote:All it says in those trademarks is that Sega renewed their ownership of the Sega name and their branding logo, they've owned one of those trademarks for 22 years and the other for 10 years, they're hardly going to let them lapse now. Not really a huge surprise in my opinion. :|


You're opinion is incorrect. SEGA's branding for home consumer products and licensing was renewed in 2000. This means the actual renewal of the SEGA hardware branding to prevent lapsing would have been in 2008 not late 2009 and 2010.

The reason why the hardware home consumer product branding was registered and renewed a year and a half ago is because SEGA abandoned the branding in January 2002, the branding was both renewed and registered in late 2009 just 7 and a half years after it was abandoned which indicates that they will once again sell hardware products for commercial usage in homes in the next decade. If they would let them laspe this would have meant that they were never going to reenter the hardware business.

SEGA is indicating they defintely are interested in selling home consumer products again, funny how the KIDS PAD ended up getting filed just a mere 16 months later.

hay stu this is what the kids pad trad mark youst to look like Business Information
Trademark Search > Trademark Category > Computer & Software Products & Electr... > KIDS PAD
KIDS PAD
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This is a brand page for the KIDS PAD trademark, which is owned by Sega Toys Co., Ltd. in Tokyo 150-0012, , . Write a review about a product or service associate with this KIDS PAD trademark. Or, contact the owner Sega Toys Co., Ltd. of the KIDS PAD trademark through the Legal Correspondent listed with the U.S. for all licensing, use, and/or questions related to the KIDS PAD trademark.

On Friday, March 11, 2011, a U.S. federal trademark registration was filed for KIDS PAD. This trademark is owned by Sega Toys Co., Ltd., Tokyo 150-0012. The USPTO has given the KIDS PAD trademark serial number of 85264286. The current federal status of this trademark filing is NON-FINAL ACTION - MAILED.
Word Mark: KIDS PAD
Status/
Status Date: NON-FINAL ACTION - MAILED
5/12/2011
Estimated Response Deadline: 11/12/2011
Serial Number: 85264286
Filing Date: 3/11/2011
Foreign Filing Deadline: Sunday, September 11, 2011

- Trademark Registration in European Union Apply for the KIDS PAD trademark in the European Union >>
- Trademark Registration in China Apply for the KIDS PAD trademark in China >>
- Trademark Registration in Australia Apply for the KIDS PAD trademark in Australia >>
- Trademark Registration in Canada Apply for the KIDS PAD trademark in Canada >>
Registration Number: NOT AVAILABLE
Registration Date: NOT AVAILABLE
Goods and Services: Handheld computers; Portable and handheld digital electronic devices for recording, organizing, transmitting, manipulating, and reviewing text, data, audio, and video files; Video monitors for tablet computers and portable and handheld digital electronic devices; Computer programs; Recorded media for computer programs
Mark Description: The mark consists of the stylized word "KidsPad" where the letters "K" and "P" are uppercase, and the remaining letters lowercase, all letters are rounded, and the bottom portion of the "d" at the end of the word is not quite closed.
Type Of Mark: TradeMark
Published For Opposition Date: N/A
Latest Owner: Sega Toys Co., Ltd.
Tokyo 150-0012
Why is this contact information displayed?
Mark Drawing Code: Drawing with Words in Stylized form
Design Search: (NO DATA)
Register Type: Principal
Disclaimer: (NOT AVAILABLE)
Correspondent:
SHAUNA M. WERTHEIM
11800...
SUITE 1000
RESTON, VA 20191
Related Tags: handheld computers portable handheld digital electronic devices recording organizing transmitting manipulating reviewing
Classification Information
International Class Code(s): 009
US Class Code(s): 021, 023, 026, 036, 038
Primary Class: Scientific, nautical, surveying, photographic, cinematographic, optical, weighing, measuring, signalling, checking (supervision), life-saving and teaching apparatus and instruments; apparatus and instruments for conducting, switching, transforming, accumulating, regulating or controlling electricity; apparatus for recording, transmission or reproduction of sound or images; magnetic data carriers, recording discs; automatic vending machines and mechanisms for coin operated apparatus; cash registers, calculating machines, data processing equipment and computers; fire extinguishing apparatus.
Class(es) Status: Active
First Use Anywhere: NOT PROVIDED
First Use In Commerce: NOT PROVIDED

International Class Code(s): 028
US Class Code(s): 022, 023, 038, 050
Primary Class: Games and playthings; gymnastic and sporting articles not included in other classes; decorations for Christmas trees.
Class(es) Status: Active
First Use Anywhere: NOT PROVIDED
First Use In Commerce: NOT PROVIDED


The correspondent listed for KIDS PAD is SHAUNA M. WERTHEIM of THE M..., 11800..., SUITE 1000 RESTON, VA 20191 . The KIDS PAD trademark is filed in the category of Computer & Software Products & Electrical & Scientific Products , Toys and Sporting Goods Products . The description provided to the USPTO for KIDS PAD is Handheld computers; Portable and handheld digital electronic devices for recording, organizing, transmitting, manipulating, and reviewing text, data, audio, and video files; Video monitors for tablet computers and portable and handheld digital electronic devices; Computer programs; Recorded media for computer programs.

Trademarkia is the largest search engine for U.S. trademarks. Each month hundreds of trademarks around the world are filed by licensed attorneys in the Trademarkia network! You can register your trademark in 55+ countries in the world through Trademarkia Network. Trademarkia.com is a free search engine of publicly available government records. Trademarkia.com is not a law firm and does not represent owners & correspondents listed on this page.
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craziestrufis
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Re: new kidspad update

Post#14 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:45 pm

craziestrufis wrote:
MrSega wrote:
stu wrote:All it says in those trademarks is that Sega renewed their ownership of the Sega name and their branding logo, they've owned one of those trademarks for 22 years and the other for 10 years, they're hardly going to let them lapse now. Not really a huge surprise in my opinion. :|


You're opinion is incorrect. SEGA's branding for home consumer products and licensing was renewed in 2000. This means the actual renewal of the SEGA hardware branding to prevent lapsing would have been in 2008 not late 2009 and 2010.

The reason why the hardware home consumer product branding was registered and renewed a year and a half ago is because SEGA abandoned the branding in January 2002, the branding was both renewed and registered in late 2009 just 7 and a half years after it was abandoned which indicates that they will once again sell hardware products for commercial usage in homes in the next decade. If they would let them laspe this would have meant that they were never going to reenter the hardware business.

SEGA is indicating they defintely are interested in selling home consumer products again, funny how the KIDS PAD ended up getting filed just a mere 16 months later.

hay stu this is what the kids pad trad mark youst to look like (file:///C:/Users/heather/Desktop/sega/kids-pad-85264286.html) sorry u will have copy and pasted and now the new 1 (http://www.trademarkia.com/kids-pad-85264286.html
)

stu
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Re: new kidspad update

Post#15 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:20 pm

@MrSega - If Sega had allowed their home consumer branding trademark to lapse like you claim, then Sega would of been prevented from using the iconic blue SEGA logo on any of their home console software products for that 7 and a half year period, that obviously never happened since Sega has been releasing games on the PS3/Xbox360/Wii and the handhelds in that time period and ALL those games had the Sega logo on it. Sega NEVER stopped selling consumer products. I think you are reading too much in to this, but thats just my opinion. :|

@craziestrufis - The trademarks I was commenting on were the 2 that you posted that referred to the SEGA logo and the SEGA name.

craziestrufis
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Re: new kidspad update

Post#16 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:33 pm

stu wrote:@MrSega - If Sega had allowed their home consumer branding trademark to lapse like you claim, then Sega would of been prevented from using the iconic blue SEGA logo on any of their home console software products for that 7 and a half year period, that obviously never happened since Sega has been releasing games on the PS3/Xbox360/Wii and the handhelds in that time period and ALL those games had the Sega logo on it. Sega NEVER stopped selling consumer products. I think you are reading too much in to this, but thats just my opinion. :|

@craziestrufis - The trademarks I was commenting on were the 2 that you posted that referred to the SEGA logo and the SEGA name.

sorry stu lol my bad

stu
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Re: new kidspad update

Post#17 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:49 pm

craziestrufis wrote:
stu wrote:@MrSega - If Sega had allowed their home consumer branding trademark to lapse like you claim, then Sega would of been prevented from using the iconic blue SEGA logo on any of their home console software products for that 7 and a half year period, that obviously never happened since Sega has been releasing games on the PS3/Xbox360/Wii and the handhelds in that time period and ALL those games had the Sega logo on it. Sega NEVER stopped selling consumer products. I think you are reading too much in to this, but thats just my opinion. :|

@craziestrufis - The trademarks I was commenting on were the 2 that you posted that referred to the SEGA logo and the SEGA name.

sorry stu lol my bad



Thats ok ..lol. There was a lot of trademarks in that post ..lol :)

MrSega

Re: new kidspad update

Post#18 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:34 pm

stu, there is a seperate trademark document registered in 2002 that allows SEGA to sell,license,develop and distribute software games and IPs. The trademarks that crazietrufis is talking about is completely unrelated to the branding of SEGA's IP trademark.

Here's the SEGA brand and logo IP licensing mark for software only:

http://www.trademarkia.com/sega-76405724.html

IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Downloadable and embedded software for playing video, computer and online games. FIRST USE: 20020800. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20020800
IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: Providing temporary access to non-downloadable software for playing video, computer and online games. FIRST USE: 20021000. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20021000

Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 76405724
Filing Date May 10, 2002
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition March 18, 2003
Registration Number 2998586
Registration Date September 20, 2005
Owner (REGISTRANT) Kabushiki Kaisha Sega DBA Sega Corporation CORPORATION JAPAN 2-12, Haneda 1-Chome Ohta-ku Tokyo 144-8531 JAPAN
Attorney of Record Paula J. Krasny
Prior Registrations 2106258;2194041;2481866;2555187;2559908;2562365;AND OTHERS
Type of Mark TRADEMARK. SERVICE MARK

stu
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Re: new kidspad update

Post#19 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:18 pm

MrSega wrote:stu, there is a seperate trademark document registered in 2002 that allows SEGA to sell,license,develop and distribute software games and IPs. The trademarks that crazietrufis is talking about is completely unrelated to the branding of SEGA's IP trademark.

Here's the SEGA brand and logo IP licensing mark for software only:

http://www.trademarkia.com/sega-76405724.html

IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Downloadable and embedded software for playing video, computer and online games. FIRST USE: 20020800. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20020800
IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: Providing temporary access to non-downloadable software for playing video, computer and online games. FIRST USE: 20021000. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20021000

Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 76405724
Filing Date May 10, 2002
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition March 18, 2003
Registration Number 2998586
Registration Date September 20, 2005
Owner (REGISTRANT) Kabushiki Kaisha Sega DBA Sega Corporation CORPORATION JAPAN 2-12, Haneda 1-Chome Ohta-ku Tokyo 144-8531 JAPAN
Attorney of Record Paula J. Krasny
Prior Registrations 2106258;2194041;2481866;2555187;2559908;2562365;AND OTHERS
Type of Mark TRADEMARK. SERVICE MARK



That trademark is for for "Providing temporary access to non-downloadable software for playing video, computer and online games." Most likely this trademark is for playing online games only. And having read through the other trademarks they are also for software as well.


These are the 2 trademarks that craziestrufis posted:

http://www.trademarkia.com/sega-75167958.html

Quote: " Goods and Services: video game machines for use with televisons; electronic gaming machines; [ video game machine accessories, namely, power cords, batteries, carrying cases, tuners, electronic memory cards, multi-player adapters, steering wheels, joy sticks, control pads, controllers, power converters, mouses, modems, adapters, and cables, ] video game software; computer game software; [ and bicycle helmets ]


This trademark grants Sega the rights to use their brand on any of the above products, it INCLUDES video game software, (eg console and handheld games) and also computer game software, which would likely include PC games, it is NOT for hardware only.

In addtion maybe we can look forward to some Sega branded bicycle helmets! :lol:


Here's the 2nd trademark:

http://www.trademarkia.com/sega-73742284.html

Quote: " Goods and Services: VIDEO GAME ATTACHMENTS FOR TELEVISION SETS, NAMELY, VIDEO GAME CONTROL STICKS, [ VIDEO GAME BEAM PROJECTORS, SPECIAL EFFECTS GLASSES FOR USE WITH VIDEO GAMES, ] VIDEO GAME PROGRAMS RECORDED ON INTEGRATED CIRCUITS IN THE FORM OF CARTRIDGES AND CARDS"

This trademark also grants Sega the rights to use their brand on software as well, but it specifies cartridges and cards. Like with the trademark above it is NOT for hardware only.

I still believe that renewing these trademarks is a merely a routine legal procedure for Sega and not a "magic sign" that Sega is about to start making it's own consoles again.

MrSega

Re: new kidspad update

Post#20 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:20 pm

Its been confirmed. PS Vita won't launch in North America until March 2012. Looks like KIDS PAD has a months up head start.

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