Is it possible to port GTA 3 to the Dreamcast?
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- Anthony817
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Re: Is it possible to port GTA 3 to the Dreamcast?
I still don't see what that has to do with Dreamshell? If you mean the GDEMU, IDE Mod and USB-GDROM or MODE, all of the alternative loading methods then yeah there is at least up to 2gb size images possible. But those still are running either .GDI, .CDI or similar format.
So like what Ian said, there is less of an issue about physical size of the game image, and more about what you can cram into the system memory at a time to run. Like he mentioned it is within the realm of possibility with heavy optimizations. But you would likely need a team of people to handle a project of this scope. Also it would need to be done with the Katana SDK to try and get running as optimally as possible. If people tried to port it with Windows CE it would likely not have half a chance of running well.
So like what Ian said, there is less of an issue about physical size of the game image, and more about what you can cram into the system memory at a time to run. Like he mentioned it is within the realm of possibility with heavy optimizations. But you would likely need a team of people to handle a project of this scope. Also it would need to be done with the Katana SDK to try and get running as optimally as possible. If people tried to port it with Windows CE it would likely not have half a chance of running well.
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Re: Is it possible to port GTA 3 to the Dreamcast?
If you put a team of devs on the payroll.. guys like bluecrab, Ian, mrneo240, megavolt and the dude behind that GL library to name a few..
And pay each of them 6k a month to make 'm work full time.. then I'm sure you'll eventually get GTA 3...
Otherwise no..
Lets face it, we all love our Dreamcast and it was a fast system for its time capable of doing nice graphics.
But Sega decided to cut the RAM and video memory in half.. fukkin 16megs of RAM and no physical storage for use as swap space and a very slow disc reader.
That gave developers nightmares..
They should have listened to the American CEO and gave it at least a HDD (and preferably 32Megs of RAM).
Then we would have seen much greater games..
And pay each of them 6k a month to make 'm work full time.. then I'm sure you'll eventually get GTA 3...
Otherwise no..
Lets face it, we all love our Dreamcast and it was a fast system for its time capable of doing nice graphics.
But Sega decided to cut the RAM and video memory in half.. fukkin 16megs of RAM and no physical storage for use as swap space and a very slow disc reader.
That gave developers nightmares..
They should have listened to the American CEO and gave it at least a HDD (and preferably 32Megs of RAM).
Then we would have seen much greater games..
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Re: Is it possible to port GTA 3 to the Dreamcast?
Just out of curiosity, but they ported GTA Sandreas to the Playstation Vita.
Unlike the GTA 3 port for Vita, Wii U, Switch and etc... this is not based on the PC version but on the Android version, apparently this is due to the Android version being lighter and having less textures quality.
It's still a prototype and it's nowhere near the performance of Vita's GTA 3, but I found it interesting to post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXbOyF4VdT4
I really dream that one of these ports will be able to go to Dreamcast someday ( Come on, even the 3DS is in line to receive a GTA 3 port ), although I find that quite impossible for now.
Unlike the GTA 3 port for Vita, Wii U, Switch and etc... this is not based on the PC version but on the Android version, apparently this is due to the Android version being lighter and having less textures quality.
It's still a prototype and it's nowhere near the performance of Vita's GTA 3, but I found it interesting to post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXbOyF4VdT4
I really dream that one of these ports will be able to go to Dreamcast someday ( Come on, even the 3DS is in line to receive a GTA 3 port ), although I find that quite impossible for now.
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Re: Is it possible to port GTA 3 to the Dreamcast?
Ps vita is about 3 times or 4 times more powerful then a ps2 or dreamcast.. code it for the dreamcast from ground up yes but never a port of a more powerful system with massive texture bus way more advanced gpu
Do you know how powerful the ps vita really is even the psp is more powerful then the dreamcast on quite a few levels
Do you know how powerful the ps vita really is even the psp is more powerful then the dreamcast on quite a few levels
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Re: Is it possible to port GTA 3 to the Dreamcast?
Play the Xbox version, it's basically a DC2 after all.
But like Half-Life, it's nice that the DC can run the game (sort of), but who would actually play such a crappy version of it?
But like Half-Life, it's nice that the DC can run the game (sort of), but who would actually play such a crappy version of it?
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Re: Is it possible to port GTA 3 to the Dreamcast?
from year to year I observe the same picture, another dreamer comes and raises the topic of GTA3
dear dreamers, at least start doing something, otherwise it will like in a Russian proverb "дурень думкой богатеет" (sorry, this is not a translatable proverb)
dear dreamers, at least start doing something, otherwise it will like in a Russian proverb "дурень думкой богатеет" (sorry, this is not a translatable proverb)
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Re: Is it possible to port GTA 3 to the Dreamcast?
What's so crappy about it? just all the load times? I found the version perfectly fine even with all the loading ha!Dreamcazman wrote: But like Half-Life, it's nice that the DC can run the game (sort of), but who would actually play such a crappy version of it?
megavolt that is exactly right. The Dreamcast just needs more people to dive into dev and then maybe a project like that can come to life one day. I know people want to hear that it can be done and can do it right away. But they need to realize what an undertaking it would be and the amount of hours and people to group together to do it.megavolt85 wrote:from year to year I observe the same picture, another dreamer comes and raises the topic of GTA3
dear dreamers, at least start doing something, otherwise it will like in a Russian proverb "дурень думкой богатеет" (sorry, this is not a translatable proverb)
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Re: Is it possible to port GTA 3 to the Dreamcast?
It's almost your fault this time with the arcade hardware port/conversions they seen that the noobs and think anything can happen..megavolt85 wrote:from year to year I observe the same picture, another dreamer comes and raises the topic of GTA3
dear dreamers, at least start doing something, otherwise it will like in a Russian proverb "дурень думкой богатеет" (sorry, this is not a translatable proverb)
lol
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Re: Is it possible to port GTA 3 to the Dreamcast?
The load times were quite atrocious plus the controls. Not so much a fault of the port, but having only one analogue stick, the DC controller isn't the best when it comes to FPS's.willis wrote:What's so crappy about it? just all the load times? I found the version perfectly fine even with all the loading ha!