San Francisco Rush 2049 - PS2 vs Dreamcast - Frame Rate Test

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San Francisco Rush 2049 - PS2 vs Dreamcast - Frame Rate Test

Post#1 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:15 pm


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Re: San Francisco Rush 2049 - PS2 vs Dreamcast - Frame Rate Test

Post#2 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:39 pm

Gotta love how the DC version averages less than 2 FPS higher than PS2 and yet everyone in the comments section is like "woah DC runs much better than PS2"

I like playing this game on my Dreamcast, but I wish there was a mod to replace the DC soundtrack with the N64 version's soundtrack.


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Re: San Francisco Rush 2049 - PS2 vs Dreamcast - Frame Rate Test

Post#4 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:00 pm

Ragfish wrote:Gotta love how the DC version averages less than 2 FPS higher than PS2 and yet everyone in the comments section is like "woah DC runs much better than PS2"

I like playing this game on my Dreamcast, but I wish there was a mod to replace the DC soundtrack with the N64 version's soundtrack.


I didn't know the music for the N64 version was different. I'll see if I can do that ;)

Edit : sounds like the same music ? (the 2 Bassy.mp3 audio tracks are the same for example)

Dreamcast version : https://www.zophar.net/music/sega-dream ... -rush-2049

N64 version : https://www.zophar.net/music/nintendo-6 ... -rush-2049

Unless you mean San Francisco Rush - Extreme Racing ? : https://www.zophar.net/music/nintendo-6 ... eme-racing


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Re: San Francisco Rush 2049 - PS2 vs Dreamcast - Frame Rate Test

Post#6 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:29 pm

Yes clearly

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Re: San Francisco Rush 2049 - PS2 vs Dreamcast - Frame Rate Test

Post#7 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:42 pm

ShindouGo wrote:I didn't know the music for the N64 version was different. I'll see if I can do that ;)

Edit : sounds like the same music ? (the 2 Bassy.mp3 audio tracks are the same for example)

Dreamcast version : https://www.zophar.net/music/sega-dream ... -rush-2049

N64 version : https://www.zophar.net/music/nintendo-6 ... -rush-2049

Unless you mean San Francisco Rush - Extreme Racing ? : https://www.zophar.net/music/nintendo-6 ... eme-racing

Some of the tracks are shared between different versions, but many of them either play in different locations or are cut on DC.

For example, the menu music on N64...


And the menu music on DC


The menu music from the N64 version can be heard in the DC version, but only in the internet menu, and it's cut down heavily in length and stops playing after less than a minute.

And as you noticed, the track Bassy is in both versions, but on N64 it plays on the first course, while on DC it plays on an obscure battle map only playable in multiplayer mode.

This song is also in both versions, but the DC version is missing about 30 seconds of it around the 3:16 mark.




There are more examples but those are a few off the top of my head.

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Re: San Francisco Rush 2049 - PS2 vs Dreamcast - Frame Rate Test

Post#8 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:46 am

I looked how it looks, and it is .str files for audio ???
The same format as on PS1 ???
After that, it's still an adaptation of a PS1 game so why not.
I'll have to find tools to do that.
I have already looked in Audacity but it cannot open them correctly (speed too fast although I tried to change the frequency).
I'll keep you posted if it's easily doable.

From there I will need you so that you can tell me which music to put on which circuit (and which music it corresponds to on the Dreamcast game).
You mean for example Bassy music which is used on circuit 1 of the N64 (but bassy music is on the DC multiplayer mode), you should tell me which one to replace on the Dreamcast version.

It's an interesting project to do, but without your help I won't be able to achieve it ;)

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Re: San Francisco Rush 2049 - PS2 vs Dreamcast - Frame Rate Test

Post#9 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:04 am

Ian Micheal wrote:Well ps2 should be doing better then it is..


So the Dreamcast.

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Re: San Francisco Rush 2049 - PS2 vs Dreamcast - Frame Rate Test

Post#10 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:01 pm

ShindouGo wrote:From there I will need you so that you can tell me which music to put on which circuit (and which music it corresponds to on the Dreamcast game).
You mean for example Bassy music which is used on circuit 1 of the N64 (but bassy music is on the DC multiplayer mode), you should tell me which one to replace on the Dreamcast version.

It's an interesting project to do, but without your help I won't be able to achieve it ;)


Here are all the differences, taken from http://www.blackfalcongames.net/?p=299

Dreamcast
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Race Track (N64 Name) - Music Track
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Menus - [Unnamed Menu Music] (not in N64 ver.)
Post-Race Time Tables - High Score [Music track not available in Audio menu music test]
Online Web Browser Mode - Internet
Marina (Race 1) - Morning (not in N64 ver.)
Haight (Race 2) - Noon (not in N64 ver.)
Civic (Race 3) - Sunset (not in N64 ver.)
Metro (Race 4) - Night
Mission (Race 5) - Garage
Presidio (Race 6) - The Rock (not in N64 ver.) [This was used in the The Rock track in arcades, repurposed to Track 6 on DC.]
The Rim (Stunt 1) - Stunted
Disco (Stunt 2) - Flier
Oasis (Stunt 3) - Wingey (not in N64 ver.)
Warehouse (Stunt 4) - Trancey
Stadium (Battle 1) - High (not in N64 ver.)
Melee (Battle 2) - Vice (not in N64 ver.)
Tundra (Battle 3) - Starsky (not in N64 ver.)
Atomic (Battle 4) - Robo (not in N64 ver.)
Downtown (Battle 5) - Bassy
Plaza (Battle 6) - Speed? (Not in N64 ver.)
Roadkill (Battle 7) - Warrior (not in N64 ver.)
Factory (Battle 8) - Speed? (Not in N64 ver)
Obstacle Course - Hidden (not in N64 ver.)
Track unused in game and not present on the disc or cart, but you can find it on Youtube: Morning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPZX7hkgopw

Nintendo 64
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Menus - Title [this is actually the track Internet from the Dreamcast soundtrack, NOT the DC or arcade menu music]
Post-Race Time Tables - Credits
Race 1 (Marina) & Battle 1 (Stadium) - Bassy
Race 2 (Haight) & Battle 2 (Melee) - Garage
Race 3 (Civic) & Battle 3 (Tundra) - Seventies (N64 exclusive music)
Race 4 (Metro) & Battle 4 (Atomic) - Night
Race 5 (Mission) & Battle 5 (Downtown) - Trancey
Race 6 (Presidio) & Battle 6 (Plaza) - Retro (N64 exclusive music)
Stunt 1 (The Rim), Stunt 2 (Oasis), & Obstacle Course - Stunted
Stunt 3 (Oasis) & Stunt 4 (Warehouse) - Flier
Tracks unused in game unless you enable them, but they are short and do not loop like normal tracks do: Battle 1, Battle 2

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