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Would the most advanced soccer game on the Dreamcast be "J League: Spectacle Soccer"?

Ryo_Hazuki wrote:Would the most advanced soccer game on the Dreamcast be "J League: Spectacle Soccer"?

Graphically its uefa dream soccer. Most detailed soccer game on dc while runing mostly 60 fps. Well animated too. It was revealed each stadium is around 5000 polygons and each soccer player is 2500 polygons( at the highest lod, which this game uses) though iam pretty sure you know that.

cloofoofoo wrote:

Ryo_Hazuki wrote:Would the most advanced soccer game on the Dreamcast be "J League: Spectacle Soccer"?

Graphically its uefa dream soccer. Most detailed soccer game on dc while runing mostly 60 fps. Well animated too. It was revealed each stadium is around 5000 polygons and each soccer player is 2500 polygons( at the highest lod, which this game uses) though iam pretty sure you know that.

5000 polys for a "stage" is low even for PSX standards.

Esppiral wrote:

cloofoofoo wrote:

Ryo_Hazuki wrote:Would the most advanced soccer game on the Dreamcast be "J League: Spectacle Soccer"?

Graphically its uefa dream soccer. Most detailed soccer game on dc while runing mostly 60 fps. Well animated too. It was revealed each stadium is around 5000 polygons and each soccer player is 2500 polygons( at the highest lod, which this game uses) though iam pretty sure you know that.

5000 polys for a "stage" is low even for PSX standards.

You have seen me at beyond3d forum , extract models from gdroms. 5000 is not low for dreamcast standard stages. Alot of of dc games have stages that run from 2000 to 12000 triangles. I see it very often. There are games that also go higher but what youre saying is not accurate at all. Theres even stages that are only 1200 triangles on dc.

You also realize if alot of the soccer players are close to each other at the highest lod it will crunch polygon count at a high rate easily. For example lets say if the 2.5k figure is real , having 4 of them on screen at their highest lod is already 10k triangles onscreen , thats what at 60 fps , like 600k a second just for 4 of them and nothing else.

Ryo_Hazuki wrote:Would the most advanced soccer game on the Dreamcast be "J League: Spectacle Soccer"?

I'd say it's UEFA Striker if you take FIFA games from that time period as gold standard.
Those goalkeepers are way too powerful though. I can imagine editing them for being weaker would make the game much more enjoyable.

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Ryo_Hazuki wrote:Would the most advanced soccer game on the Dreamcast be "J League: Spectacle Soccer"?

One of the best and last to be release for Dreamcast (in 2002) but just by playing all the soccer games you can observe UEFA Dream Soccer and Sega WorldWide Soccer Euro Edition are above all the rest, by the way they were the last soccer developments around 2000-2001