Shenmue 3? Will it happen?

[MrSega]

there's no need to start insulting people (again)

The Rumors/Speculation section is basically a war zone! I knew it wouldn't take long for this thread to go off topic.

SHENMUE III PEOPLE! SHENMUE III!

@CruSega. 32X & Saturn are completely different in design and power, Mars is System 32 based hardware therefore not capable of 3D & wasn't meant to be 3D. Saturn is off-the-self chips of Model 2 hardware. Saturn uses a more complex low res archetecture design of Model 2. Both proccessors run a higher res Model 1 polygon proccessing mechanism and a Quadlateral 3D engine.

N64 was time consuming & expensive to program, games were known to take almost 2 to 3 years to finish. Nintendo's 1st party development kits have always been different from its 3rd party kits, so it doesn't make any sense to say Miyamoto didn't complain about developing Mario 64. N64's 64-bit Trilateral single core processor was only good on paper, in reality it was VERY difficult to program & as a result, MANY N64 titles were scrapped and never saw the light of day.


@pcwzrd. I agree. We should get back on topic.

Shenmue was a very expensive to develop, budget in 1997-1999 was said to be $70 million adjust inflation & thats $140 million which is Hollywood budget. The average budget for a $60 title is over $50 million, if SEGA were to make a Shenmue III for 360,PS3 or Wii U, they would be amassing a $215 million dollar budget!

See why its better to develop the game on thier own hardware platform?

[pcwzrd13]

Shenmue was a very expensive to develop, budget in 1997-1999 was said to be $70 million adjust inflation & thats $140 million which is Hollywood budget. The average budget for a $60 title is over $50 million, if SEGA were to make a Shenmue III for 360,PS3 or Wii U, they would be amassing a $215 million dollar budget!

I'm not sure it would cost that much though. I think the costs to develop a game like that would be lower today. I would think the cost would be about the same as a game such as The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion which I think was under $20 Million. The reason for the comparison is that it's a fairly similar game with it's open world, large amount of characters, etc...

[MrSega]

Shenmue was a very expensive to develop, budget in 1997-1999 was said to be $70 million adjust inflation & thats $140 million which is Hollywood budget. The average budget for a $60 title is over $50 million, if SEGA were to make a Shenmue III for 360,PS3 or Wii U, they would be amassing a $215 million dollar budget!

I'm not sure it would cost that much though. I think the costs to develop a game like that would be lower today. I would think the cost would be about the same as a game such as The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion which I think was under $20 Million. The reason for the comparison is that it's a fairly similar game with it's open world, large amount of characters, etc...

The only game in today's high budget software to cost $20 million would be a PC RTS game.

Like I said, the average budget for a game today is $50 million. This is because rasteration engines are more expensive & high budget than the graphic proccessors of the yesteryear. CPUs back in the late 90s were designed to run parallel with GPUs. Thats not the case anymore. GPUs handle all the visual proccessing.

[pcwzrd13]

The only game in today's high budget software to cost $20 million would be a PC RTS game.

Like I said, the average budget for a game today is $50 million. This is because rasteration engines are more expensive & high budget than the graphic proccessors of the yesteryear. CPUs back in the late 90s were designed to run parallel with GPUs. Thats not the case anymore. GPUs handle all the visual proccessing.

Yeah, I may be wrong about Oblivion. I couldn't really find a exact number. I just quickly Googled it and came up with one that said $18 Million. I understand what you're saying about games costing more to develop nowadays but what's so different about Shenmue that would make it cost more than a game such as Oblivion or other games with large open worlds?

[Neohound]

I'm always a bit sceptical when I see some of the ridiculous amounts bandied about regarding Shenmue's budget. It was huge but I think a lot of the figures are pure myth.

Every Shenmue fan knows the story: Dozens of members of the dev team took month long trips to China, accrued huge expenses, brought home hundreds of fabric samples, took thousands of photos etc, and all in the name of 'research'. This was Sega being at it's most indulgent !

It simply wouldn't be necessary to be so meticulous for a sequel if Sega managed to get most of the original team back together but that's unlikely. More likely it would be an all new team who took on Shenmue 3. The whole project could be managed far better than the original with a much tighter control over the budget.

Nowadays, even the most unambitious games have very large budgets. Maybe this is a symptom of the Shenmue legacy ?

I hope that it will be made one day, but whether that is by Sega on it's own hardware, I don't know.

[pcwzrd13]

SEGA needs to use this tech for examining objects in Shenmue III!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHL5tJ9ja_w[/youtube]

[MrSega]

SEGA needs to use this tech for examining objects in Shenmue III!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHL5tJ9ja_w[/youtube]

That would be cool, but they're more interested in OpenRL.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTwzrPu9Iw8[/youtube]

Also Brazil Rendering

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uct6hEhX ... re=related[/youtube]

[stu]

That would be cool, but they're more interested in OpenRL.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTwzrPu9Iw8[/youtube]

Also Brazil Rendering

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uct6hEhX ... re=related[/youtube]

Really? Thats interesting, none of the mainstream video gaming or tech sites are reporting that. Got a source?

[MrSega]

@stu. We know that NEC is still contracted through Imagination Tech for licensing GPUs & that SEGA still has IM as a OEM graphics for future next generation arcade hardware.

SEGA also issued a patent for a graphics engine in May of 2010.

I'm not going to dispute any rumor that the new arcade board will use some sort Power VR & Caustic Graphics technology because its obvious that SEGA more than likely will use OpenRL.

So far, more has indicated that with the fact that SEGA didn't annouce the board at JAMMA like they were supossed to.

[stu]

@stu. We know that NEC is still contracted through Imagination Tech for licensing GPUs & that SEGA still has IM as a OEM graphics for future next generation arcade hardware.

SEGA also issued a patent for a graphics engine in May of 2010.

I'm not going to dispute any rumor that the new arcade board will use some sort Power VR & Caustic Graphics technology because its obvious that SEGA more than likely will use OpenRL.

So far, more has indicated that with the fact that SEGA didn't annouce the board at JAMMA like they were supossed to.

Hmm as I figured. Nothing credible as usual.