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Re: PC-DC server on Vista/Win7/XP etc. (Sort of)
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:30 pm
by Dinnerfortwo
Is the zoom modem not installing?
if thats the problem then install it like this guide says here
http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-ti ... ows-vista/
Re: PC-DC server on Vista/Win7/XP etc. (Sort of)
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:21 am
by NunchuckChaz
I have almost given up on trying to make this server thing. I still get 'NO CARRIER' whenever I try.
The modem has been weird. On one distro, it won't be detected and on the next it will be.
Who uses the Zoom 3095 here, and how would I be able to hook up my 77HP Tone Generator (just in cast I'm doing it wrong)?
Re: PC-DC server on Vista/Win7/XP etc. (Sort of)
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:57 pm
by brourke228
Alright first of all, like favrenation said you need a Model A Dreamcast modem and a line voltage inducer for the zoom modem to work regardless of the situation. You can refer to the bottom of my guide if you need an idea of how to build a line voltage inducer, its quite easy to do.
Now if all that is set up, you have 2 options. You can install your usb modem through a virtual serial port, which is easier but performs much worse. Or you can use the modem through a virtual usb port in vmware in which case it will perform the same as if the modem were running in windows which is great. If you use a virtual usb port, as I've suggested doing for usb modem users in my guide then you will need to acquire a linux driver for your modem and install it in Ubuntu or set it up as indicated here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=599508
Impulse managed to get his dell modem working that way, but i think he needed to update the software repositories on ubuntu for it to work.
Once the driver is installed you can proceed with the guide and your modem will show up under gnome-ppp as the device name you have mentioned (/dev/ttyACM0). If you set it up through a virtual serial port it will show up as something like /dev/ttyS0 .
If you have verified that all thsi is correct and you are still having problems, then you may need to go back and check your configuration files. However the no carrier message usually indicates you are missing line voltage, but not always. You could also be syncing the connection up wrong. You must do the "killall" command 2.5-3 seconds after Dreamcast has started dialing.
So just make sure everything is set up correctly. There is no shortcut you have the two options i listed and in both cases you need both a model A Dreamcast modem and a line voltage inducer. If you don't have a model A dreamcast modem you will either need to purchase one or purchase a different PC modem.
In all likelihood the zoom modem would work with a model B Dreamcast modem, but the line voltage inducer would need to be producing a different voltage therefore it would need a different circuit. But I don't know the difference in voltage between the two modems when they're operating with a usb-powered modem, so I can't help you with that.
Re: PC-DC server on Vista/Win7/XP etc. (Sort of)
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:28 am
by NunchuckChaz
Okay, I do have a model 'A' modem, unless someone switched the sticker.
What is the difference between a 'line voltage inducer' and a 'tone generator'? I've seen a video on YouTube (junker15 I think) of a guy using what could be a crunchbang distro with the same tone generator I've got and his connection worked fine until he stepped on a key on the keyboard, or something.
I have also had a few different speed readings after running gnome-ppp. Should that be put into the mgetty.config file, or is there a specific speed to use?
I've used the serial port option for the USB modem, and I also tried to install the drivers of the Zoom 3095, but I couldn't find anything for Ubuntu 10.** specifically. I installed the drivers for a debian distribution and it seemed to have already been installed.
Would the fact that I use the Update Manager before I start the whole process make any sort of negative impact?
Re: PC-DC server on Vista/Win7/XP etc. (Sort of)
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:31 pm
by jgregoryj1
Just got this completed and my modem connects from within XDP, however when I try to load up Google or connect to eith PSO or Starlance it says connecting for forever and then disconnects. I can confirm that the it does show connected on my pc-dc server, but cannot figure out why I cannot stay connected for more then a minute or two. I am using crashbang with a usb conexant modem with a line inducer. Anyone have any suggestions? I am very new to linux. Thank you in advance.
Re: PC-DC server on Vista/Win7/XP etc. (Sort of)
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:59 pm
by brourke228
Alright first of all make sure that you are using a Model A Dreamcast modem since you are using a usb modem.
Then check if there is internet inside of vmware in crunchbang. Also, be sure that you have vmware set to use a bridge connection and not NAT.
If this still doesn't solve the problem it sounds like it might just be a DNS or IP issue since you are connecting, but with no internet. If your home network does not match the configuration in the options and options.(interface) files then you will need to modify them so that all IP addresses are on the same subnet as your network.
In ryochans guide the DNS he has in the options file is next to "ms dns". If your default gateway is not 192.168.1.1 or if it does not run its own DNS server you will need to change this either to an actual DNS server, or the real IP of your router. Also verify that all other IP information is correct.
While you haven't gotten this far yet, make sure that when you are connecting to Quake III Arena, 4x4 Evo, and StarLancer that you comment out default-asyncmap as indicated in ryochan's guide. Otherwise those specific games will not work correctly.
If you have any other questions let me know.
Re: PC-DC server on Vista/Win7/XP etc. (Sort of)
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:24 am
by Exor
Well it finally seems I got a little success. I remember impulse buying PSO from a target when i was 12. My my the days when I had AOL and did the Netzero trick to play hours upon hours online. Sadly we got cable in mid 2002 so I started to get yelled at for tying the phone up when there was sweet cable internet to use. So here comes my first DC-PC server using a conexant voice modem with win98. That was legit PSO magic on the real servers, great speeds as well on that old machine.
Now let's set the scene 10 years later about to graduate college, and what do I want to do? Play PSO again. So I tried the WinXP method with no avail, I know the tip of the iceberg when it comes to linux so I have fears going that route but I do have a "somewhat" working setup.
Now I am running a pretty decent Hackintosh running Snow Leopard 64. Now I read guides of easily using minicom and pppd to essentially do the same thing as you are doing in linux, sad story is I couldn't get it to pick up anything and the Mac guide I saw was for Tiger only so I scrapped the idea. And yes, I am using the dreaded Zoom 3095, didn't know it was going to powersuck out of the box but I am making due. So I used vmware fusion to make an XP vm to try and do this magic, no dice. So I decided, fuck it, going to do the method I know works best.
Enter Win98 with winroute in a vm.
I have the network set up as "bridged" and not nat and was having no luck on connecting at all. So I built the line simulator using a 9vdc transformer. So now the web browser connects!
Yes!
Wrong-o. Go to hop on SCHThack for the first time and nothing, I assume my codes are hosed. Turns out the server went down. So I just now tried Sylverant...
SUCCESS!
So I hop in the lobby and not noticing any lag until I teleport to the surface. Jesus on my face is it bad. I clocked the time it took an item to drop from the "guaranteed" item box. 1min 45sec. Dear God, that's horrible. Anyhoo, wasn't concerned and commenced fighting Boomas. Random black screen but the sound is still going.
I think, WTF?
Then the screen comes back and the fight continues. Not to mention standing idle for more than a minute causes the line to drop and I get disconnected.
Now if anyone has any insight to why the connection is so poor, I'm all ears.
Setup:
Snow Leopard 64
VMware Win98 (Bridged, Zoom is usb captured in the VM with the drivers installed)
Dreamcast A modem
Line Simulator
What's wrong here? lol
Edit:
I watched Winroute, since it displays the traffic, my RX never even gets into the Kb/s range. The highest it has ever been was 60 B/s. Now my TX speeds vary, highest I've seen is 300 B/s after the black screen disappears so I can continue the game. Most the time while playing I notice Winroute's Speeds to be 0 B/s on RX and TX.
Edit 2:
So I bumped the ram of my Vm from 256mb to 512mb and it seemed to run a little faster, when it felt like it. Item drop/pick up times were tolerable there were no black screens until about 25mins into the game then it was filled with black screens and finally a line drop notice. I'm still pondering as to why the line is so unstable.
Re: PC-DC server on Vista/Win7/XP etc. (Sort of)
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:04 am
by brourke228
If you set up your modem in vmware through a virtual COM port it will be very slow. This has to do with vmware, it does not function perfectly with non-serial devices. With modems it appears to decrease the bandwidth and increase the latency, as you've seen.
For it to function normally you'll want to instead use a virtual usb in vmware and then install a driver for your modem in your virtual machine. I covered this in my guide, you might want to read it over again. However you might run into a problem doing this though because, depending on how old it is, your modem likely has no drivers for windows 98. So if windows 98 does not assign a generic driver to it, it would be wise to instead use linux.
Actually, you might be able to find drivers on the conexant website.
If you are still having trouble after setting it up in this fashion, it is most likely being caused by pc-dc configuration.
Re: PC-DC server on Vista/Win7/XP etc. (Sort of)
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:10 am
by Exor
brourke228 wrote:If you set up your modem in vmware through a virtual COM port it will be very slow. This has to do with vmware, it does not function perfectly with non-serial devices. With modems it appears to decrease the bandwidth and increase the latency, as you've seen.
For it to function normally you'll want to instead use a virtual usb in vmware and then install a driver for your modem in your virtual machine. I covered this in my guide, you might want to read it over again. However you might run into a problem doing this though because your modem likely has no drivers for windows 98, so it would be wise to instead use linux.
If you are still having trouble after setting it up in this fashion, it is most likely being caused by pc-dc configuration.
I have done it the way you've described. I had vmware capture the usb device where I had to install it via the drivers off the disc for Win98. So I'm sans virtual com port. I am thinking it is merely do to the fact teh Zoom is just a crappy soft modem.
I just bought this cheapie off Newegg moments ago.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6825164005
According to the data sheets on it, it is an actual usb HARDWARE based modem so I can drop this bastard child of a line simulator and it is virtually driverless do to it being all hardware based.
Re: PC-DC server on Vista/Win7/XP etc. (Sort of)
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:30 pm
by Favrenation
I would use linux. Otherwise make sure your line voltage inducer is working right. What are the specs on the machine your running?
EDIT: I found that the modem you bought is detected natively in linux and is a hardware modem .
This device is a real modem, and "just works." No special softmodem driver or other nonsense is required. Recent linux kernel versions detect it as a USB CDC ACM device, and present a generic serial interface you can use with a terminal application, getty, hylafax, or a PPP dialer. Gnome PPP and wvdial detect and configure this modem automatically. It is suitable for applications where you might otherwise need to hook up a USB to serial adapter and then an external modem, and available for a fraction of the cost and size.