Why has nobody made a modded/custom controller with a second joystick in the opposing position to the D-Pad - this stick would be mapped to imitate the ABXY buttons so it's compatible with FPS titles natively. It might not be as smooth as a modern secondary stick but it's a start.
Either way, the DC controller deals with most things just fine, tho I admit the lack of the C and Z buttons can only be considered a glaring oversight on SEGA's part back in the day - it effectively gave the DC fewer inputs than the Saturn.
Looking forward to seeing what comes of the BT controllers. If they completely lack latency it may be a way to stop me trailing controller extensions over my lounge floor
Retrobit sega partnership. New Dreamcast/ Sega hardware- peripherals.
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To note, the NFL2k series is the only game I know that uses the "5th button". If you look at your offensive play choices, you'll see an "L" (why "L", I do not know). This is the "Z" button on my 6-button Innovation and Madcatz controller ("C" button is not used).
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It wasn't actually an oversight though, it was deliberate. The Dreamcast's controller data protocol does specify optional C and Z buttons, and even a second analog stick. Sadly SEGA chose not to include them in the final design of the controller.Roareye wrote:Either way, the DC controller deals with most things just fine, tho I admit the lack of the C and Z buttons can only be considered a glaring oversight on SEGA's part back in the day - it effectively gave the DC fewer inputs than the Saturn.
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I know it was a design choice, but in hindsight it was a poor omission. Interesting that the protocol allows for it tho
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Roareye, the controller you seek was actually made back around 2010 or so, and a guy from here by the name of Spinksy bought the modded controller and cleaned up the design.Roareye wrote:Why has nobody made a modded/custom controller with a second joystick in the opposing position to the D-Pad - this stick would be mapped to imitate the ABXY buttons so it's compatible with FPS titles natively. It might not be as smooth as a modern secondary stick but it's a start.
Either way, the DC controller deals with most things just fine, tho I admit the lack of the C and Z buttons can only be considered a glaring oversight on SEGA's part back in the day - it effectively gave the DC fewer inputs than the Saturn.
Looking forward to seeing what comes of the BT controllers. If they completely lack latency it may be a way to stop me trailing controller extensions over my lounge floor
Please excuse the blurry nature of the picture, I actually had to retrieve a cached version in a search engine that was really bad quality. I never backed the pictures up when it was made. But if you want to know what they did, they tapped into the d-pad and copied that. Many FPS games on DC have PC-like controller customization such as in Half-Life and Quake, so you could make it work and keep the face buttons for other uses.
I can't find the video demonstration on YouTube the original creator of the controller made before Spinksy got his hands on it and cleaned up the design. I would actually add C and Z micro switches to the place where LB and RB are on 360/Xbone controllers to get full use of digital L and R.
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Re: Retrobit sega partnership. New Dreamcast/ Sega hardware- peripherals.
I really hope one day a "modern" Dreamcast controller pops up. Something like that Retro Fighters controller for n64. Dreamcast could really use it. Maybe with the second stick mapped to the twin sticks 2nd input.
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Thanks Anthony, that's basically what I was suggesting lol
Does anyone make them or was it a one off?
Does anyone make them or was it a one off?
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I'm hoping retro fighters does a dreamcast controller. Their n64 controller is awesome!
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The official twin stick controller comes in my mind. But this one only emulates the stick/d-pad?Roel wrote:It wasn't actually an oversight though, it was deliberate. The Dreamcast's controller data protocol does specify optional C and Z buttons, and even a second analog stick. Sadly SEGA chose not to include them in the final design of the controller.Roareye wrote:Either way, the DC controller deals with most things just fine, tho I admit the lack of the C and Z buttons can only be considered a glaring oversight on SEGA's part back in the day - it effectively gave the DC fewer inputs than the Saturn.
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So does a twin stick controller worth with quake 3 and such?