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Why are games changing my VMU's icon?

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:21 am
by SomeGuyWithASega
So, I just came from playing Super Magnetic Neo for the first time. Pretty good game so far, I like the attraction/repulsion gimmick that is implemented. It helps the game stand for its own and not just become a Crash Bandicoot ripoff. The strangest thing that happened though was when I finished playing; I booted back to the Dreamcast menu, and my VMU's icon had been changed from a happy face to the Crave logo. I checked to see if there was an extra file saved on my VMU along with my save in the menu; nothing. I even deleted the save, and still nothing.

So then I booted up the handy-dandy Dream Explorer and found a 3 block icon data file for the Crave logo that was hidden from the default file menu. If you didn't catch onto that, Super Magnetic Neo basically installed a virus onto my VMU (not in the way that it harms files, but makes changes to the settings without telling the player). I didn't even know that was possible, let alone that developers would be sneaky enough to put them in.

I was incredibly confused, and eventually found out that other games do this as well, like Shadowman. None of my other Crave games do this though.

Could I get some more info on this, as well as more games that do things like this? Thanks.

Re: Why are games changing my VMU's icon?

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:33 am
by Aleron Ives
I didn't know that games themselves could install icon files. Will they also overwrite existing icon files? D: I have icons installed on most of my VMUs, and I wouldn't want a rogue game to overwrite them without my permission...

Re: Why are games changing my VMU's icon?

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:35 am
by Xiden
Theres a glitch with capcom games doing that as well. I remember reading it being a known issue, but I think there is dc software that can change the icon again out there

Re: Why are games changing my VMU's icon?

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:05 pm
by mistamontiel
I haaaate that. Same for Shadow Man it just eats four blocks of space to force its own stupid icon

n then only Dream Explorer VMU Tool can undo that

Re: Why are games changing my VMU's icon?

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:06 pm
by SomeGuyWithASega
@Aleron Ives I don't think they overwrite the existing icon files.

Speaking of Super Magnetic Neo, I ran into a problem in Ancient World level 1 where Neo doesn't get on the camelcycle at the beginning. I heard it was supposed to be automatic, but the buttons do nothing except for Start to pause the game.

Re: Why are games changing my VMU's icon?

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:39 pm
by BloodBrother
I have had this happened very recently, although not recent enough for me to remember which game did it, haha. However, it wasnt SMN or Shadowman.

Re: Why are games changing my VMU's icon?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:27 pm
by beanboy
SomeGuyWithASega wrote:@Aleron Ives I don't think they overwrite the existing icon files.

Speaking of Super Magnetic Neo, I ran into a problem in Ancient World level 1 where Neo doesn't get on the camelcycle at the beginning. I heard it was supposed to be automatic, but the buttons do nothing except for Start to pause the game.
This has happened to me as well.
And I heard it has happened, to quite a bit of other people too.
Did you or anyone else, ever find a workaround for this strange glitch?

Re: Why are games changing my VMU's icon?

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:52 pm
by Tarnish
beanboy wrote:
SomeGuyWithASega wrote:@Aleron Ives I don't think they overwrite the existing icon files.

Speaking of Super Magnetic Neo, I ran into a problem in Ancient World level 1 where Neo doesn't get on the camelcycle at the beginning. I heard it was supposed to be automatic, but the buttons do nothing except for Start to pause the game.
This has happened to me as well.
And I heard it has happened, to quite a bit of other people too.
Did you or anyone else, ever find a workaround for this strange glitch?
I had this problem too on a burnt copy. Tried a different image I think from Cool-Roms, that image didn't have this bug.

Re: Why are games changing my VMU's icon?

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:19 pm
by mistamontiel
Re-read opening post

lol VMU virus? No settings to change well I guess what is displayed you mean?

Yeh, then only homebrew can fix that. What the fuck devs

Re: Why are games changing my VMU's icon?

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:20 pm
by beanboy
Tarnish wrote:
beanboy wrote:
SomeGuyWithASega wrote:@Aleron Ives I don't think they overwrite the existing icon files.

Speaking of Super Magnetic Neo, I ran into a problem in Ancient World level 1 where Neo doesn't get on the camelcycle at the beginning. I heard it was supposed to be automatic, but the buttons do nothing except for Start to pause the game.
This has happened to me as well.
And I heard it has happened, to quite a bit of other people too.
Did you or anyone else, ever find a workaround for this strange glitch?
I had this problem too on a burnt copy. Tried a different image I think from Cool-Roms, that image didn't have this bug.
Okay. I downloaded the one, from Cool-Roms. I'll check it out in a while.
Hopefully, this one doesn't have that strange bug. Thanks.