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Definitive Answer on GDEmu and Heat?

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:20 pm
by Lamaman1971
Sorry, I know this is an old topic but I wanted to try and get a good answer. After installing a GDEmu is it necessary to replace or modify the old PSU? Is the heat issue really an issue at all?

Re: Definitive Answer on GDEmu and Heat?

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:23 pm
by deluxux
Only an issue on 240V pal consoles YMMV!

Re: Definitive Answer on GDEmu and Heat?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:30 am
by mrneo240
After extensive testing on multiple units another person confirmed for NTSC consoles no issue

Re: Definitive Answer on GDEmu and Heat?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:46 pm
by dave_van_damn
I want to buy a 3D printed tray for my GDEMU, but I'm not sure which one to buy. I've read that it should allow airflow but I'm not sure which one is best. Would this one be fine?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/294135402555 ... %3A2047675

Re: Definitive Answer on GDEmu and Heat?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:08 am
by deluxux
Don't buy that 3D printer junk,

But the DreamTray from Xrider
https://www.dreamcast-talk.com/forum/vi ... =5&t=14206

Re: Definitive Answer on GDEmu and Heat?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:10 am
by NightBreeze
deluxux wrote:Don't buy that 3D printer junk,

But the DreamTray from Xrider
https://www.dreamcast-talk.com/forum/vi ... =5&t=14206
Strong disagree on 3D printed parts being junk. The linked tray seems to be based on laserbears design which is great (and open source, I use it myself). The 3D printed tray gets bonus points for not requiring to put screws in the top casing. You may not value this aspect but it's not dismissible, and other may value it like me.

And for whoever prefers the tray design by Xrider, all the power to them. I'm glad there are options.

Edit: On-topic, I have a PAL system and I did first try the resistor mod to the PSU, but I don't feel that helped a lot with heat. Never tried removing the 12V line and not sure if the heat ever was/would've been a problem or not, but I replaced mine with a PicoPSU and the the console is much, much cooler. So for my own peace of mind it was definitely worth it.

Re: Definitive Answer on GDEmu and Heat?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:25 am
by deluxux
3D printed can be fine if it's made with quality ingredients but for 10 bucks I'll bet it's crap.

Re: Definitive Answer on GDEmu and Heat?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:39 am
by BlueCrab
deluxux wrote:3D printed can be fine if it's made with quality ingredients but for 10 bucks I'll bet it's crap.
The amount of 3d printer filament needed to print one of these trays, even high quality stuff, doesn't cost more than a dollar or two (and that's for someone buying the materials in small quantities -- someone who buys material in bulk would most certainly pay less). I can say this with confidence as I do own a 3d printer and printed a similar design myself.

That all said, I probably wouldn't personally buy a 3d printed part from some random ebay seller for other reasons (them not giving the original designer credit or often them not having permission from the original designer to sell their parts). But that's beside the point...

Re: Definitive Answer on GDEmu and Heat?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:02 am
by NightBreeze
deluxux wrote:3D printed can be fine if it's made with quality ingredients but for 10 bucks I'll bet it's crap.
To be honest that particular one (at least the product pictured in the eBay posting) seems to be one of those that have been mass-produced in China, slightly modified from the original 3D print design. I doubt it even is 3D printed. So $10 is pretty on-point for the price, not cheap. I saw someone on reddit post that they were very happy with theirs (bought from Amazon).

I've also never heard of "crappy 3D print materials", it'd usually be printed in either PLA, PETG or ABS. And the materials have different heat tolerances (PLA being the only one I think would potentially deform in this particular use case). Edit: Well there's crappy filament, but that usually just mean it will result in failed or bad prints, doesn't mean the actual material is bad.

Re: Definitive Answer on GDEmu and Heat?

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:05 am
by Roareye
I use a PAL DC with a GDEMU and a 3D Printed Tray. It has absolutely no issue with heat, runs no hotter than it did with the disc drive in place. Replacing the PSU will only remove a level of heat from the DC and make more exterior mess with an external power brick. IMO it's absolutely not worth it unless your current PSU is actually faulty (or you want to try fitting a Dreampi into the actual DC unit itself).

That being said the DC always got hot when on (certainly if on for many hours, like I've been doing with mine while testing things). So it's entirely a choice, not a necessity.