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/Legit command doubts (PSO)

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:06 pm
by K_I_R_E_E_K
I have been making for bluecrab the conditions that will be implemented possibly on a inventory scan, that scan will be done once the command "/legit" is aplied.

It's done basicly, it may receive more conditions and more improvments in the future but the basic is done.
I do have some doubts and so i want to ask PSO players certain questions were i ain't sure about the answer, some players have done quests i never did so i may have a feeling what i did was right, but i ain't sure.

So let's begin
*searches items that were noted for revision*

1st item - SONIC_KNUCKLE
I know this is a quest item, when the quest gives you this item, can it have % or will it always come with 0%, if it comes with % i assume they won't go above 15%, is this correct?

2nd item - C_SORCERERS_CANE (and in general, all weapons that are made using parts of enemies)
Today's rate is an alternative quest for enemy part conversions and can give %, these % can only go as high as 15%, am i right?

3rd item - VICTOR_AXE
My favorite problem, as you know (or not) v2 excusive items are red labeled or apear with a glowing red name, this means all yellow named items such as this one drop for v1 as well.
Thing is and according to drop faqs, this item drops on ultimate forest, wich is a v2 exclusive difficulty, beeing so this item can't be found on v1 even despite it exists in v1.
To make sure, can a v1 player ever find this weapon?

4th item - TOY_HAMMER
Where can this be found? in a quest? will the quest give the item with 15% max or will it give without %?

5th item - WOK_OF_AKIKOS_SHOP
Where can this be found? in a quest? will the quest give the item with 15% max or will it give without %?

6th item - SAMBA_MARACAS
Where can this be found? in a quest? will the quest give the item with 15% max or will it give without %?

7th item - BROOM
Where can this be found? in a quest? will the quest give the item with 15% max or will it give without %?

8th item - FLOWER_BOUQUET
Where can this be found? in a quest? will the quest give the item with 15% max or will it give without %?

Re: /Legit command doubts (PSO)

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:08 pm
by Saffo
i m not a fan of legit commands....anyway

1. sonic knucles can have a % higher than 15%. i have one that reached 40 or 45. quests are tinkebeller s dog and sunset at the secret base

2. when motague convert weapons online the % can actually go very high. One of my items have a double 45%.

on a side note: a v2 weapon converted from an enemy part without the % is alwais unlegit cause motague will alwais put a little % in it, and v2 stuff can t be converted offline.

3. i m pretty confident that v1 can drop it, but i m not sure. Remember, v2 drop charts for N H and VH have a few differences with the v1 charts

4. and 6. toy hammer can be traded for badges in famitsu maximum attack and can t have %, and the same goes from samba maracas and chamaleon scythe.

5. and 7. Broom and wok can both be traded for badges in either ttf or lost soul blade and can t have any %

8. i don t know....i ve been tryng to get one but never figured how. i have only the item called flower bouquet earned in the white day quest but it s not a weapon.

Re: /Legit command doubts (PSO)

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:20 pm
by K_I_R_E_E_K
wow, thanks
btw, can you give specific % values, because the checker will be used to detect a hack, so a SONIC_KNUCKLE, at what point the % becomes impossible.
same for the other stuff, what is the max % possible

If ppl don't know i'll say the max is 50% (assuming these items won't have % higher then the items found on normal gameplay on vhard difficulty)

on a side note: a v2 weapon converted from an enemy part without the % is alwais unlegit cause motague will alwais put a little % in it, and v2 stuff can t be converted offlineon a side note: a v2 weapon converted from an enemy part without the % is alwais unlegit cause motague will alwais put a little % in it, and v2 stuff can t be converted offline
Items can be converted offline

Re: /Legit command doubts (PSO)

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:34 pm
by Saffo
i don t know the absolute max.....the max i ve seen is 45% but it s related to my experience of player....

and no. only a v1 enemy part can be converted offline. I had the dragon claw and there was no way to convert it offline.

Re: /Legit command doubts (PSO)

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:39 pm
by K_I_R_E_E_K
wait, isn't dragon claw a weapon already, why it needs conversion?

I'll set the max % for 50 tomorrow, i am done with copy&paste for today
Curse you sega, for adding so many items to PSO

Re: /Legit command doubts (PSO)

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:45 pm
by Saffo
it drop as an item and need to be converted. it s tricky cause the name of the item it s exactly the same as the name of the weapon.

Re: /Legit command doubts (PSO)

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:48 pm
by K_I_R_E_E_K
Yep i see it now on bankmod as an item, thanks

Re: /Legit command doubts (PSO)

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:55 pm
by MikeStutzzzz
but doesent some percents go negative?

Re: /Legit command doubts (PSO)

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:24 am
by Cathy
Not with every item.

Re: /Legit command doubts (PSO)

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:01 am
by K_I_R_E_E_K
Yes, some % go negative, that's why i'm trying to determine the max %.
Based on common cheating ppl tend to give % to weapons that are not obtainable, i assume that most cheaters don't do weapons with negative %.

Why would someone make a -60% native sealed j sword?

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The checker already contains false positives and i am going to put some more false positives into the mixture, each server then can select to include or not to include each verification.
I found a way based on common cheating to improve the detection of hacked armors and shields, but the chance it will detect a false positive exists, it's very, very, very, very low however. (i did the math)
Bluecrab is trying to make several things that need to added, one is the "min" value (required and usefull for mags), pb verification and multiple condition verification, the last one is the one i will use for armors and shields, without it my verification only verifies 1 shield and 1 armor.

This isn't like the old schthack legit command, that was done with 3 slaps and detected lot's and lot's of false positives, this verification is made item by item,i'm not adding a general condition to all items, that would result in false positives.