Geist Force has gone to the presses!

[Comrade Snarky]

Geist Force like Cosmic Smash was an early effort by SEGA to showcase Dreamcast's power back in 1998. It was supposed to be SEGA's anwser to Star Fox.

The reason why it was cancelled was :1. There was so much pressure by SEGA to develop a title that ultilized DC's power, that an early build overclocked NAOMI. 2. SEGA just didn't feel it was going to be successful & was more interested in fixing Sonic Adventure for its stateside release. And 3. When Namco annouced that they were developing a Soul Calibur arcade port that was being built from the ground up, which would show Dreamcast's capabilities, this took the weight off of SEGA.

Fun Fact: Geist Force was the very first game developed for Dreamcast. It was originally prototyped on "Black Belt" hardware so it used 3Dfx graphics engine.

It wasn't cancelled because of pressure to develop a title that utilized the DC's power. It was cancelled because Bernie Stolar had carte blanche around the Dreamcast launch and said the game wasn't good enough. That's it. Stolar wanted AAA games only, and he said Geist Force didn't fit the bill.

Geist Force doesn't use 3DFX tech either. If it did, it wouldn't run on ANY Dreamcast that was released in a public form. Maybe an early version of Geist Force was developed using 3DFX stuff, but the beta assembler has is not that version. It has difficulties running on Dreamcasts we have now because it was developed on ever so slightly earlier hardware than what was released that had moderately different specs.

I don't know where you get your information, but please don't spread it as fact. It's bad for everyone to have misinformation going around.

[CD AGES]

I don't know where you get your information, but please don't spread it as fact. It's bad for everyone to have misinformation going around.

I must agree with this. A lot of this stated has been WAY too random to be stated as facts or at least it comes arcoss as such. I was like... GF, an Xbox port... WTF!?

[stu]

Found this explanation as to why Geist Force was cancelled, courtesy of IGN UK:

http://uk.dreamcast.ign.com/articles/068/068219p1.html

Quote: "It appears that Geist Force, whose's status has been more uncertain than Oprah's dietary habits, has taken a flying leap of the cliff of gaming oblivion. A spokesperson from Sega told IGNDC that despite earlier rumors that the project was being handed to other programmers inside Sega after a recent internal shake-up, Sega COO Bernie Stolar recently decided the project was better left unfinished.

Prior to E3, Sega claimed the title was still on target for a September release with the system, but apparently after further examination early last week, Stolar decided to cancel the project as it simply did not live up to Sega's AAA billing. While it is certainly a bit depressing to see Geist fall by the wayside, it is nonetheless a positive sign to see Sega upholding some standard of quality for their titles."

[MrSega]

@Snarky. Sighs*.

Qoute taken directly from EGM Issue #137 From the article "10 Games You'll never Play" Dec 2000

"As the June '99 EGM observed, "The project has an awful lot to live up to" The folks at Sega obviously felt the same way, and apparently they thought the game fell short of enormous expections.

Qoute from Lead Programmer Nimai Malle "There was a lack of confidence about Japanese reception".

Stolar had little say in its cancellection. It was SEGA as a whole who felt it wasn't going to meet its expectations.

Since you attacked my credibility without reason or proof, while implying that I make up false info while subtley insulting me, I'm reporting you for personal attacks.

[MrSega]

I don't know where you get your information, but please don't spread it as fact. It's bad for everyone to have misinformation going around.

I must agree with this. A lot of this stated has been WAY too random to be stated as facts or at least it comes arcoss as such. I was like... GF, an Xbox port... WTF!?

Stu and Snarky are both trolls who's job is to attack my credibility with nothing to back up their claims.

I have a copy of the Dec 2000 issue of EGM. The article talks all about GF & that SEGA of Japan cancelled the game and that Stolar had absolutely nothing to do with it. That SEGA as a whole felt that the game wasn't going to meet its expections.

Another qoute taken from the article: "The programming was 65-70% done. The long time political infighting at Sega as well as three seperate times,we had to re-rally the team to focus on a deadline,which can really be a drain."

[Comrade Snarky]

Don't bring your rumors section attitude into the rest of the forums. We don't need troublemakers here.

[MrSega]

Don't bring your rumors section attitude into the rest of the forums. We don't need troublemakers here.

No, you're just trying to start a flame with me. You dispute me but you present nothing to back up your objections.


Please stop flaming me just to label me.

To CDAGES, I'm going to see if I can find archives of the article online, if I can't I'll scan the page later.

It look like I got GF confused with another DC port to the Xbox, It was a misunderstanding, sorry man.

[Comrade Snarky]

Don't bring your rumors section attitude into the rest of the forums. We don't need troublemakers here.

No, you're just trying to start a flame with me. You dispute me but you present nothing to back up your objections.


Please stop flaming me just to label me.

To CDAGES, I'm going to see if I can find archives of the article online, if I can't I'll scan the page later.

It look like I got GF confused with another DC port to the Xbox, It was a misunderstanding, sorry man.

I never insulted you. I corrected you, and asked that you not spread incorrect information. Don't elevate this.

[elmagicochrisg]

Start acting like adults guys. And I do mean both of you...

And yes, a scan would be nice. Not to check if your story is true MrSega, but for the article itself...

It's a piece of SEGA history afteral... ^^

[MrSega]

Hey,guys I have some old screenshots of GF from E3 1998:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83901

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/sh ... orce/page3

And an old copy of the GF GD ROM beta!:

http://media.photobucket.com/image/rece ... 010041.jpg