Life after Ebay.

[game_player_s]

With only a weeks remaining before Ebay finaizes its idoticide, what or where is everyone planning to move onto for buying and selling stuff online?

I'm actually giving serious consideration to trying out www.ChaseTheChuckWagon.com for buying and selling gaming related stuff, have even made an account there already. But their general merchadise listing site is rather weak at this time.

Also, www.ioffer.com seems like it has potential, and it has the really huge plus of allowing you to import your Ebay account stats when you make an account there.

Has anyone seen, heard of, or used any other Ebay alternative sites?

[Gary_b]

did i miss something? what is ebay planning? i would go to Amazon.com if i had to go someplace else to buy gaming items. hell i go to Amazon.com just as much if not more already.

[Impulse]

I haven't heard either. What is ebay going to do?

Half.com seems to be a great place.

[game_player_s]

The completely re-written User Agreement goes into effect on June 14th. But as the CEO of Ebay has so cheerfully stated, "If you don't agree with the new terms you can close your account.".

The new terms essentially remove all rights from the sellers. They already stripped the rights away from sellers to accept any form of payment other than electronic forms through Ebay owned transaction services back in March. Now they're stripping away the rights for sellers to have their own Terms & Condition rules. Even if you have any such terms posted in your listings Ebay's saying those are void and that there terms are the only terms. All sellers will be required to provide tracking numbers for sold items to Ebay through a new function in "My Ebay". All Pay Pal payments received will be withheld from you until your buyer leaves you feedback, or until such time that Ebay gets around to verifying the status of the tracking number you were forced to provide (which somewhere I read would be after four weeks with no feedback left by the buyer). Couple all that with the annually rising Ebay final value fees and Pay Pal transaction fees, and the ever climbing postage rates.

There's a bunch of other garbage in the new terms, but those there were more than enough to make me say enough.

And those new terms are already in effect for anyone who's just now making a new Ebay account. June 14th Is the date it goes into effect for everyone who already had an account. You can read more about all the messes this is creating here:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/eBay ... esistance/

Even now, if you sell an item on Ebay right now for example at $4.99 the cumalative Ebay & Pay Pal fee's for that $4.99 sale are $1.34, and that's assuming that your buyer used a direct Pay Pal to Pay Pal fund transfer. If your buyer used a credit card, debit card, or e-check then the fees would be a few cents more.

[mazonemayu]

which basically means that I'll be pm-ing the seller of item X, ask to take it off ebay & sell it to me like that

[game_player_s]

Hehe, that's a positive way of looking at it. Must warn you though that if a seller decides to report you for doing that your account will be temporarily suspended or even banned by Ebay.

We fully intend to keep our family account open at Ebay, were just not going to sell through it anymore. High fee's, negative policies, withheld funds, it's just going to require far to much trouble and effort to even attempt to comply with Ebay's new rules, regulations, and policies.

We've had our Ebay account for going on eleven years now and the Ebay that exists today is nothing at all like the site it once was, nor does it look like it ever will be again. At the heart I have to blame Pierre, the owner, as he was stupid enough to make Ebay a publicly traded company and then placed Meg Whitman as the head CEO whilst he essentially retired to whittle his life away doing nothing.

Meg Whitman mind you is not a bad person. She just had no vision of what Ebay was supposed to be and went ahead with remolding it into what her years of retail dealings told her it was supposed to be. She's the one who destroyed the feedback system, making it absoultely worthless. She's also the one who implemented the double dipping of fee collection by placing fee's on Pay Pal payments received for Ebay transactions.

Then she up and quits last year and this new guy, who apparently has a bad track record all around, gets the job by promising share holders that he'll double the profits of Ebay in a mere 12 months time. Since day one he's had lawyers and legal advisors mulling over the old policy so they could draft up this new draconiun garbage that gets implemented on June 14th.

Essentially, Ebay was an online open free market of sorts. The policies, if any, were left to the individual sellers to decide for themselves. If a buyer and seller had a dispute, they handled it themselves and the end results of the transaction were made public using the feedback system. If a member got enough negative feedback they were ousted, gone, finished, game over.

This new system is more akin to a heavily taxed online consignment store. You have no rights to determine the policies by which your item sells. You have no say in how you're paid. You will pay fee's regardless of whether you sell your item or not. And you will not be allowed to collect money for a sold item until the consignment firm is satisfied that the buyer is content with their purchase.

It's no wonder Ebay membership is on a sharp decline. This is the first year since Ebay's inception that membership has dropped rather than risen. The Wall Street Journal (at least I think that was the news agency) reported in April that Ebay lost over 20% of it's membership during the first quarter of this year. And I can only imagine based off of the lower than ever bids I'm seeing that it's still declining. I'm really going to miss the Ebay I once knew.

[DC_Tman]

Yeah, I've heard about that.

Half.com and Amazon are ok, but not really for Dreamcast games. With eBay, you see what you get. On Half it's just a description. I've been scammed by Half before. eBay's always been good to me.

[black flag nc]

I could see how that would suck for the sellers. I've maybe sold 10-12 things on Ebay in the last 5 years, so I'm not too worried about it.

Chase the Chuckwagon is a good alternative.

[Madpig]

I got Jet Set Radio for a pound on ebay

[Kannibal]

Is this for real?

I sold my stash of Pokemon cards for $30 two years ago, and if I would've sold them today[let's say it's June 14th today] I would have had to pay a fee to sell even if it doesn't get bought?

or am I confused here...

I guess I'm not getting any cool trinkets on my B-Day from ebay anymore...damn I'm gonna miss that[yeah, my friend on ebay gives me some wierd things he doesn't wanna sell on ebay anymore! like some card game called Tango where you look at a card and put shapes together to make the silhouette on the card]